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内容摘要:INS Arihant left crippled after ‘accident’ 10 months agothe hinduINS Arihant 在10个月前的“事故”之后就一直处于瘫痪状态印度教徒报 JANUARY 08, 2018 2018-01-08========...
INS Arihant left crippled after ‘accident’ 10 months ago
the hindu
INS Arihant 在10个月前的“事故”之后就一直处于瘫痪状态
印度教徒报
JANUARY 08, 2018
2018-01-08
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【译者:我不确定是否歼敌者等军事专业词汇具体是那些,凡是英文名称的都保留了】
【译者:就是歼敌者号潜艇的事儿。局座认为进水之后,三哥需要把潜艇拆开修理,无异于再造了一艘。。。】
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Nuclear submarine was damaged after water entered its propulsion chamber
水进入推进舱后,核潜艇受损

Indigenous nuclear submarine INS Arihant has suffered major damage due to ''human error'' and has not sailed now for more than 10 months, say sources in the Navy.
海军消息称,国产核潜艇INS Arihant由于“人为错误”而遭受重大损失,截至目前航行时间还不超过10个月。

Arihant is the most important platform within India’s nuclear triad covering land-air-sea modes.
Arihant 是印度核三合一中覆盖陆海空模式的最重要的平台

Arihant’s propulsion compartment was damaged after water entered it, according to details available with The Hindu. A naval source said water rushed in as a hatch on the rear side was left open by mistake while it was at harbour.
根据印度教徒报,Arihant的推进舱在海水倒灌后受损。一位海军说,水在后面的舱门冲进来,这个舱门在港口时被误打开。
【译者:CCTV的台词,门一直开着,水一直灌着,潜艇一直泡着】

The Ministry of Defence did not respond to questions from The Hindu.
国防部没有回应印度教徒报的提问。

The accident
Since the accident, the submarine, built under the Advanced Technology Vessel project (ATV), has been undergoing repairs and clean up, the sources said.
意外
消息人士说,事故发生后,先进技术船项目(ATV)下建造潜艇正在进行修理和清理。

Besides other repair work, many pipes had to be cut open and replaced. “Cleaning up” is a laborious task in a nuclear submarine, the naval source said.
除了其他维修工作外,许多管道必须被切开和更换。海军消息来源说,“清理“核潜艇是一项艰巨的任务。

The Arihant issue rose soon after INS Chakra, the Nerpa class nuclear submarine leased from Russia, was reported to have suffered damage to its sonar domes while entering the Visakhapatnam harbour in early October. However, INS Chakra has only a peripheral role in the nuclear triad, for both training and escorting, and Arihant  is the one that will carry nuclear missiles.
据报道,从俄罗斯出租的奈帕级核潜艇INS查克拉号在10月初进入维沙卡帕特南港口时遭受了声纳圆顶的损坏。但是,INS查克拉在三位一体核打击中只是边缘角色,既有训练也有护送,而Arihant则是将负责携带核导弹。

The absence of Arihant  from operations came to the political leadership’s attention during the India-China military standoff at Doklam. Whenever such faceoff takes place, countries carry out precautionary advance deployment of submarine assets. Arihant (Code name S2) came into the limelight on July 26, 2009, when Gursharan Kaur, wife of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, broke a coconut to mark its launch in Visakhapatnam.
在中印军事对峙期间,Arihant的缺席引起了领导层的关注。每当发生这种对峙时,各国就会预先部署海底资产。 2009年7月26日,Arihant(代号S2)成为众人瞩目的焦点,总理曼莫汉辛格的妻子Gursharan Kaur在维沙卡帕特南(Visakhapatnam)举行了打破了椰子的庆生仪式。【译者:不知道该仪式是否是下水仪式】

After that, the submarine was towed to an enclosed pier for extensive harbour trials from the dry docks at Ship Building Centre, away from public view. Arihant was quietly commissioned into service in August 2016 and its induction is still not officially acknowledged. It is powered by an 83 MW pressurised light-water reactor with enriched uranium.
之后,这艘潜艇被拖到一个封闭的码头,以便在造船中心的干船坞进行各种试验,从此远离了公众的视野。 Arihant于二零一六年八月悄然投入服务,其归纳尚未正式确认。它由83兆瓦加压轻水反应堆提供动力。

Senior naval sources maintain that Arihant has faced problems from the start. Initial delays could be just teething trouble, glitches at various stages of getting the reactor to go critical and during harbour trials; major differences between the Russian-supplied design and indigenous fabrication are said to have left many issues unaddressed satisfactorily.
海军高级官员认为,Arihant从一开始就面临问题。最初的延误可能只是一个小问题,在港口实验过程中,反应堆在到达临界点前的多个阶段出现故障。 据说俄罗斯提供的设计和本土制造之间的主要差异所导致的许多问题找不到令人满意得解决方案。

Top gun for second strike
Arihant , the country's only operational Ship Submersible Ballistic Nuclear (SSBN) asset, can stay undetected deep underwater for long periods, range far and wide. It is the most dependable platform for a second strike, given the country's “no first use” on nuclear weapons. The other options, land-based and air-launched, are easier to detect.
第二次遭受当头棒喝
Arihant是该国唯一运行的核潜艇(SSBN),可以在水下长时间潜航不被发现,作战半径巨大。鉴于该国“不首先使用”核武器的政策,这是进行二次打击的最可靠的平台。其他打击方式如陆基和空中发射,更容易被发现。

The submarine is manned by 100 men with extensive training from the School for Advanced Underwater Warfare in Visakhapatnam and further hands-on training on INS Chakra.
这艘潜艇由维沙卡帕特南的先进水下作战学校的100名士兵接受训练,并进一步接受了在INS查克拉潜艇上的训练。

The second ballistic missile submarine, Arighat, was launched on November 19 for sea trials. The launch was kept a low-profile event, attended by Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman and senior Navy officers.
第二艘弹道导弹核潜艇“Arighat”于十一月十九日进行海试。这次启动是一个低调的事件,由国防部长Nirmala Sitharaman和海军高级军官出席。

A high-profile launch, to be attended by the Prime Minister, was put off.
本该总理出席的高调发布会被推迟了。

Key to nuclear triad
Arihant and other nuclear launch platforms are operationally handled by the Strategic Forces Command, and report to the Nuclear Command Authority chaired by the Prime Minister.
三位一体核打击的关键
Arihant等核导弹发射平台由战略部队司令部负责指挥,并向总理主持的核军事指挥部报告。

However, the over 100 nuclear warheads are not mated with missiles or bombs and remain in civilian custody of the Atomic Energy Department and the Defence Research and Development Organisation.
但是,这100多枚核弹头并不与导弹,炸弹匹配,而是留在原子能部门和国防研究与发展组织等民用结构的监管之下。

Ambitious plan to build SSBN fleet
India has an ambitious plan to build a SSBN fleet, comprising five Arihant class vessels.
雄心勃勃的建立SSBN舰队的计划
印度有一个雄心勃勃的计划,建造一艘由五艘Arihant级船只组成的SSBN舰队。

The naval sources say the plan hinges on Arihant’s success. It has taken 30 years to build it, at a high cost. “It was initially estimated to cost about ₹3000 crore for three boats — now the cost of Arihant itself seems to have gone over ₹14,000 crore,” a former high-ranking naval officer said.
海军方面说,这个计划取决于Arihant能否成功。花了30年的时间来建设该核潜艇,的确成本很高。一位前高级海军官员说:“最初估计三艘船的成本约为300Y卢比,现在Arihant本身的成本似乎已经超过了1400Y卢比。

The Eastern Naval Command plans to operate its nuclear sub fleet from an independent Naval Operational Alternative Base (NOAB) being constructed on 5,000 acres at Rambilli, for direct access to the sea. The base is located about 50 km from Visakhapatnam, and jetties are under construction.
东海军司令部计划在Rambilli建设5,000英亩的独立海军作战替代基地(NOAB)以运营该核舰队,从这个海军基地可以直接进入大海。该基地位于维沙卡帕特南约50公里,码头正在建设中。

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Vijayan 5570 points
4 days ago
If not decommissioned properly it may lead to severe issues later...
如果没有正确地退役,以后可能会导致严重的问题。

Hunny 35 points
6 days ago
Atleast check your facts before publishing anything... Is there any hatch on the rear side... check this out guys
在发布任何消息前,至少核实一下...背面是否有不可告人的动机...检查这个家伙

JB 5 points
7 days ago
The Indian Navy just can't have nice things
印度海军就没干过好事儿
  
  
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Chris Ian
7 days ago
The Arihant class is an Akula variant
Arihant类是Akula变体
  
Deepak 5 points
8 days ago
Unbeliveable... folks can't close a hatch and still wann go nuclear? Fix your ridiculous cast society system first and foremost. Then go play in the water.
难以置信...人们不能关闭舱口,仍然想要核武器?首先搞定你那荒唐的种姓制度。然后去水里玩。
  
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Karan 1330 pointsDeepak
5 days ago
What does caste have to do with this issue? "Your" caste issue seems a bit rich considering your name which (theoretically) means you are part of the caste system as well.
种姓与这个问题有什么关系?考虑到你的姓名(理论上),你的种姓显示你应该是个有钱人,而这也意味着你是种姓制度的一部分。
  
Jai Ho415 points
9 days ago
That is Indians. Sleep at switch all time unless someone give step by step instructions. Lazy people. It took 9 years to commission which become already 9 year old technology. Day 1 breaks down. Repair costs more than original estimates
那是印度人。除非有人一步一步得指示,否则随时都可以在开关上睡觉。懒惰的人。花了9年时间才实现9年前的老技术。第1天就宕机。维修成本超过原来的估计


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Karan 1330 pointsJai Ho
5 days ago
9 years to commission what became 9 year old technology. Wonderful math. How many nations have been able to build SSBN's indigenously within a decade? Hint: it's less than eight.
9年来实现9年前的老技术。精彩的数学。在十年之内,有多少国家能够建立国产的SSBN?提示:不到八个。
  
Qasim Raja5 points
9 days ago
When you cant handle nuclear weapons and eye on others.
当你不能使用核武器并盯住别人时。

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William 50 pointsQasim Raja
5 days ago
Don't worry porky, we are quite capable of handling Aircraft carriers and other high value assets. This is some human error we will over come. Just cover your base, should you try to mess up with us.
不要担心猪肉,我们有能力处理航空母舰和其他高价值资产。这是一些人为错误,我们会纠正的。如果你试图搞砸我们,就起码做好掩护。

  
Lakhwinder Singh5 points
9 days ago
it's not good for our country that our ocean guardian INS ARIHANT suffering from that damage nd delayed in repair
我们的海洋守护者INS ARIHANT遭受这种损害和修理延误
  
AR 2440 points
9 days ago
Of late too many such 'mishaps' have been happening in the navy. Shouldn't the govt be exploring the angle of sabotage?!
海军已经发生了很多这样的“事故”。政府不应该从破坏的角度进行检讨吗?

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Dark SkyAR
7 days ago
Lol a Pakistani spy has got onboard the sub and left the hatch open. What are you smoking dude?
大笑。巴基斯坦间谍已经上了船,并保持舱门大开状态。你在抽烟吗?

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Sridhar Kaushik285 points
9 days ago
Let Indians first get decent roads, healthy enviornment, decent standard of living.
India wants to become a superpower when it is superpoor.
IMV, good riddance.
Pathetic nation does not deserve a nuclear sub.
This is meant for highly developed nations that have solved other basic problems and can afford to spend money on such toys.
让印度人首先得到良好的道路,健康的环境,体面的生活水平。
印度想成为超级大国。
IMV,好消息。
可怜的国家不配得到核子。
这意味着高度发达的国家已经解决了其他的基本问题,并且有钱购买这类玩具。


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Shiva The200 pointsSridhar Kaushik
5 days ago
We should send you at the border then
那么我们应该把你送到边界
  
William 50 pointsSridhar Kaushik
5 days ago
People learn by mistakes. Such things are found in highly developed countries. A Russian submarine too got stuck on the ocean bed and more than 150 people perished. Similar accidents can be traced to USA, UK & France. So stop your blame game.
失败是成功之母。这样的事情也发生在发达国家。一艘俄罗斯潜艇也被卡在海床上,150多人死亡。类似的事故可以追溯到美国,英国和法国。所以别再指责了。
【译者:最讨厌印度人加私货。。。】
  
Chintamani Gokhale115 points
9 days ago
How is it that there was not a sensor at the control panel which showed that a hatch was open ?
在控制面板上没有传感器显示舱口打开的情况么?

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Swathik 10 points
10 days ago
Why do you have to publish this report in a newspaper? Matters of defense are supposed to be confidential. Instead of seeing this as a news, consider this as a matter of national importance and let the concerned authorities deal with it. I don't see any benefit in knowing that my nation's major submarine has some issues. Well, it might be beneficial for the enemy though...
你为什么要在报纸上发表这份报告?国防事务应该是保密的。不要把这看作是一个新闻,而应该把它看作是一个国家重要的情报,让有关当局去处理。我不知道我国主战潜艇有什么问题。这种报道(泄密)对敌人是有益的

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Dark SkySwathik
7 days ago
This is the typical indian attitude. If something goes wrong they try to hide it instead of facing the issue or telling a senior. Such incidents happen in the Western countries and are reported in the press so why is India any different?
这是典型的印度态度问题。如果出现问题,人民会试图掩盖它,而不是面对问题或告诉议会。这样的事件发生在西方国家会被报道,为什么印度为什么不能呢?

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Baskaran 1075 pointsSwathik
8 days ago
Good Point. This pertains to National Security and you just published the vulnerability of our 14000 crore sub as well as the Navy to everyone. Great job. You should be proud of yourself.
好点子。这涉及到国家安全,你刚刚发布了我们的1400Y卢比的潜艇消息以及海军的脆弱性。做得好。你应该为自己感到骄傲。

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Ramakrishnan 90 points
10 days ago
I somehow find it difficult to believe that this incident is due to 'human error'. High-end technologies such as submarines (and even civilian aircraft) have a lot of automation for such functions (closing hatches and pulling up landing gear). Plus, such parameters are monitored and only on 'green' are such vehicles activated. I am pretty sure that in an advanced vessel such as the Arihant, an open hatch would have definitely been indicated as an operational anomaly. Any takers?
我很难相信这个事故是由于“人为错误”造成的。潜艇(甚至是民用飞机)等高端技术对于这些功能(关闭舱口和起落架的起降)具有很高的自动化程度。此外,这些参数被监控,并且只有在“绿色”时才能启动。我很确定,在像Arihant这样的先进船舶上,一个开放的舱口肯定会显示为一个运行异常。有附议的么?

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William 50 pointsRamakrishnan
5 days ago
I am reminded of a similar incident around 3-4 years before. I parked by car behind a posh USA made car. The owner of the car couldn't engage the gear to maneuver the car out of the tight spot and waiting for me to remove my car. So going by that standard and with so much money at stake will there be any such slip take place. I think there is much more to then this. People are covering others to save skin. May be design flaw or serious miscalculations.
我提醒大家大约3-4年前的类似事件。我把车停在一辆豪华的美国汽车后面。汽车的主人无法使用装备将汽车从狭窄的地方移开,而是等待我把车开走。那么按照这个标准去做,这么多钱同样会有这样的失误。我觉得还有更多这种现象。人们为了挽救颜面而责怪他人。可能是设计缺陷或严重失误。
  
Abhishek 2120 points
10 days ago
INS ARIHANT is back in action, damage was done to propulsion chamber, first made in india nuclear submarine takes time to repair. Hindu is publishing 10 month old news, The damaged pipes and other instruments were replaced to make the warship operational again, check on google, latest news
INS ARIHANT正在采取行动,对推进舱进行了修复,首先在印度核潜艇需要时间来修理。印度教徒报发布这则10个月前的旧闻,损坏的管道和其他仪器被更换,以便军舰再次运行,谷歌搜一下吧,看看最新消息

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S. S.40 points
10 days ago
Already the submarine has proven to be vulnerable. Even after spending14000 crores does not enhance the Safety and Security for the nation. Every one is accountable. Hopefully they can fix it in time and heighten our National security.
已经证明潜艇是脆弱的。即使花费一千四百亿卢比,也不能增强国家的安全和保障。每个人都负有责任。希望他们能及时修好,加强国家安全。
  
Truth 605 points
10 days ago
This whole report is fit to be printed on toilet paper to be flushed in cooum.
Even any modern car door is open ,you can not drive the car and sounds an alarm ditto for a seat belt.
Does the navy or this hot shot paid reporter wants some one to believer that the hatch on a Nuclear Submarine costing billions of $ will not have a sensor to show it is shut in place and enough torque had been applied on the bolts to secure it water tight or the bolts are motor driven indicating it was secured and such a critical step would not have been witnessed by a second submariner unless you are in a sudden dive in midsea during a combat operation.
The entire crew need to be sacked court marshalled including the Captain who should be incarcerated along with the types of Lalloo for he was negligent to the core.
it is a diving coffin    the flying ones based on Russian design to be operated on Vodka from Russies.
What happened to the crony Admiral who made his son the captain,hanged?
这整个报告适合打印在卫生纸上然后冲掉。
即使是现代的汽车门都是开着的,你不能驾驶汽车,并且听到安全带的警报声。
海军还是这个该死的记者想要让人相信,核潜艇那成本数十亿美元的舱口没有传感器显示它已经关闭,并且螺栓上已经施加了足够的扭矩来保证水或者螺栓是由马达驱动的,表明它已经被固定,而且除非你在战斗中突然潜入中途大开舱盖,否则第二潜艇艇员将无法亲眼目睹这样的关键问题。
所有船员都要解雇,包括应该被监禁的上尉,因为他是疏忽的根源。
这是一个俄罗斯设计的飞行棺材,需要俄罗斯伏特加酒才能操作。
上尉让他的儿子成为上尉的海军上将发生了什么事,被绞死了?
  
Sanjay Krishnamurthy5 points
10 days ago
1. A picture of the submarine itself undergoing repairs??!!! Is there anyone in the defense establishment who sees a problem with this?
2. See the buildings at the rear:) I wouldnt even drop off my cycle rickshaw here for repairs
3. Left the hatch open :) Japan flew 3000 miles to Pearl Harbor to bomb USA. We cant seem to drive into a harbor to do repairs.
1.潜艇本身正在进行修理的照片!!!国防机构中有没有人看到这个问题?
2.看看后面的建筑物:)我甚至不会在这里把我的轮转黄包车送去修理
3.离开舱口:)日本能飞往3000英里的珍珠港轰炸美国。我们却无法进港维修。
  
Ranjan 5 points
10 days ago
It is not only shame for India but also lost the dignity of defence ministry....India has massive loss but our honourable minister not open her mouth....shame...shame
这不仅是印度的耻辱,而且也失去了国防部的尊严......巨大的损失,但是我们的尊贵的部长却不敢开口......耻辱......耻辱

Anupam 935 points
10 days ago
No need to get disheartened. We will learn a great deal for this failure, and build better products next time. Cheer up.
没有必要灰心。我们将会为这次失败学到很多东西,并且下次会建立更好的产品。振作起来。
  
Sumeet 10 points
10 days ago
Guys this is getting really annoying now, the photo is that of INS Chakra not the Arihant. The Indian Navy doesn't have that many submarines that you should keep confusing the two every damn time! For future reference, INS Chakra is the only one with a bulbous dome over the rudder.
弟兄们,现在真的很烦人,照片是INS查克拉,而不是阿里汉特。印度海军没有那么多的潜艇,你把这两个时间都混淆了!为了以后不犯错,INS查克拉是唯一的方向舵球形圆顶,其它的都不是。
  
K J George Karrikkoottathil1425 points
10 days ago
This is a very serious matter directly related to India's Defense system.
departmental enquiry must be made to find the person/s whose failure resulted the crippling of the vessel and suitably punished. In the meantime the Govt. must find suitable alternative to face a serious situation that may crop up anytime.
这是一个与印度防务系统有直接关系的严重问题。
必须进行调查,找出事故肇事者,并予以惩戒。在此期间,政府必须找到合适的方案来面对一个可能随时出现的严重情况。
  
John Desouza4675 points
10 days ago
What are the chances that somebody left the door open on purpose? Considering the number of accidents, I think something goofy is going on.
有人打开门的机会有多大?考虑到事故的数量,我觉得有些愚蠢的事情正在发生。
  
KD 150 points
10 days ago
what a shame, this reflect India's readiness as superpower.
真可惜,这反映了印度作为超级大国的准备。
  
Alex 5 points
10 days ago
.".manned by 100 men with extensive training" sounds    a lot of bull. Which bunch of morons will leave a hatch open in a ocean going vessel that too a submarine???
“训练有素的100名男子”听起来很牛。哪一群白痴会在远洋船上留下一个舱口呢?更何况是潜艇。

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Mike SorbelloAlex
9 days ago
They were pier side when the flooding happened. A submarine must do a low pressure blow of the ballast tanks every 24-48 hours due to leakage. If not done the front or rear of the boat can sink and allow water into any open hatch. The rear hatches are most vulnerable.
US subs use cofferdams on the rear hatches that must stay open in port. (Shore power connections enter the aft of the sub where a hatch must stay open while they are connected.) The cofferdam extends the hatch opening 1-2 feet higher to provide a larger margin of funky ballasting.
I suspect the flooding was the result of improper ballasting pier side and/or lack of cofferdam usage.
淹水发生时,他们在码头边。由于泄漏,潜艇必须每隔24-48小时对压载舱进行低压吹扫。如果没有进行这个操作,船的前部或后部会下沉,并允许水进入任何打开的舱口。后舱是最脆弱的。
美军潜艇在后舱口上使用围堰,必须在港口保持开放状态。 (岸电连接进入子舱的尾部,在连接舱口时舱口必须保持打开状态)。围堰将舱口开口长1-2英尺以上,以提供更大的时空压舱空间。

我怀疑这次淹水是由于码头压载不当和/或围堰没有使用造成的。

  
PA 5270 points
10 days ago
You will happy to learn Pakistanis wash their Cars with the Car Windows open.
您将乐意学习巴基斯坦人打开车窗清洗他们的汽车。

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Madanlal Sharma310 points
10 days ago
My advice to all those working on various projects would be to work hard and work hard. Nothing is given by anybody free. Even in the developed countries, the scientists have worked tirelessly to find new inventions.
There is a saying ,a scientist failed 1000 times to invent something new. Someone asked him and his reply was ‘ I have failed but I have come to know this invention cannot be done in 1000 ways and there has to be another way of inventing’ So , finally he succeeded too.
The mantra is work hard and nothing else.
我对所有参与各项工作的人的建议是努力工作。这个世界上没有免费的午餐。即使在发达国家,科学家也会不遗余力地进行创新。
有句话说,一个科学家失败了1000次,发明了一些新的东西。有人问他,他的回答是“我失败了,但是我已经知道这个发明不可能用1000种方法完成,而且必须有另一种方式”,最后他也成功了。
咒语是努力工作,没有别的。

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Krishna Praveen5 pointsMadanlal Sharma
8 days ago
yes everyone works hard until some stupid leaves a hatch open.
是的,每个人都努力工作,直到一些人愚蠢地大开舱门。
  
Syed 12775 points
10 days ago
what is our defense minister doing?
我们的国防部长在做什么?


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Arjun Diwaker30 points
10 days ago
our government should take care of all such problems and ins arihant is one of our most important submarine which give philip to our defence system
我们的政府应该把所有这些问题都处理好,Arihant是我们最重要的潜艇,它给我们提供防御系统

  
Subodh 3465 points
10 days ago
It seems our submarine fleet crew are not well trained in operation of this type of Submarines that causes such accidents. Such mishaps not only cost our money, but also risky for the country's security. It is the responsibilty of Naval command that they keep these submarines fully operational always, and train crews to be careful with such high cost submarines.If they have any problems, they can take it to the concerned governtal authority for immediate attention.
看来我们的潜艇舰队人员在这种类型的潜艇的上没有受到良好的训练,才导致这样的事故。这样的事故不仅耗费钱,而且也危害国家安全。海军司令的责任是始终保持这些潜艇全负荷运行,并训练船员对这种高成本潜艇小心操作。如果有任何问题,可以把它交给有关主管部门,立即处理。

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Abad Rana5 points
10 days ago
New technology is need for reducing this type of accidents .
需要采取新技术以减少这类事故。

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Singharaj 10 points
10 days ago
indian government must take some steps to remove cast reservation from selection of candidates in any exam.
government can give relax in the fees for application but to give chance to those who scored only 190 other than 200 scored candidates , it is just sending our cream to the other countries.
印度政府必须采取一些措施,从任何考试中取消种姓保留制度。
政府可以放宽申请费用,却给那些只拿到190分以上200分以上的应征者保留机会,结果只能是把我们的精华送给其他国家。
【译者:印度有种姓预留机制,比方说,政府内25%名额留给低种姓。妄图负负得正的愚昧做法】
  
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K Yadav855 pointsSingharaj
9 days ago
dear in defence there is no reservation on basis of caste, either in NDA or CDS or any officer entry. And ofcourse merit is required bt fr that we need to improve our educatuon system esp govt schools
亲爱的,无论是在NDA或CDS,在国防中没有任何种姓预留极值。当然,我们需要改进我们的教育体系,特别是对于学校
  
Mrpqrs 155 points
10 days ago
The average length of human pregnancy is 280 days, or 40 weeks. This is taking longer!!! Shame on the bureaucracy.
10 months is a very very long time for repairs. At least now that it is in the news the Babus will approve the expenditure needed for the repairs.
人类怀孕的平均时间是280天,即40周。这却需要更长的时间!对官僚主义感到羞耻。
10个月的维修时间非常长。至少现在有消息说Babus会批准维修所需的费用。
  
Mayournadin 240 points
10 days ago
Finally, in recent years we have highlighted the policy of "MAKE IN INDIA". This is an essential program that should have been launched as early as 1947. It is unrealistic to think that this orientation, launched in 2014, can produce results in the short term, despite the skills of the country's scientists and industrialists. In reality, the "Make in India" existed in a haphazard way before 2014. Its achievements in the field of defense have not been successful. We can see it well if we look at the ARJUN, TEJAS programs, not to mention nuclear submarines or the rifles... It would be useful for the concerned leaders of the country to ponder at length this remark of Herodotus a: "The haste generates in all the error; and error often comes out disaster "(3)
最后,近几年来,我们突出了“印度制造”的政策。这是一个早在1947年就应该推出的不可或缺的计划。若想这个在2014年发起的计划在短期内能够取得成果,是不现实的,尽管该国的科学家和工业家具备这些技能。实际上,2014年之前“印度制造”偶然被提到,它在防务领域还没有取得成功。如果我们看ARJUN,TEJAS计划,我们可以看到相同的情况,更不用说核潜艇或步枪......对于国家领导人来说,对Herodotus的这番评论进行详细思考将是有益的:“急速生成所有的错误,并且错误经常演变成灾难“(3)
  
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Mayournadin 240 points
10 days ago
In addition, several incidents have been reported in the press: military planes crashing, cannons exploding, submarines damaged ... Investigations are triggered, but when it comes to human errors, there is total black out about sanctions. Remember, when similar accidents occur in other armies: the sanctions are immediate (see the US Navy).On the other hand, during these last months, one attended a massive policy of acquisition of materials. Moreover, the appointment of the new defense minister accentuated this movement. It will quickly be pointed out that it is not only equipment that is the strength of an army (see the American experience in Vietnam) The situation of the country's military apparatus certainly justifies this choice. But should not we also devote more time to the training of men and women who will use these materials which are more and more complex? (2)
此外,新闻界报道了一些事件:军用飞机坠毁,大炮爆炸,潜艇受损......调查启动之后,最终人为错误导致惩戒阶段全面停顿。请记住,当其他军队发生类似的事故时,惩戒是立竿见影的(参见美国海军)。另一方面,在过去的几个月里,人们进行了大规模的物资采购。此外,新国防部长的任命加剧了这一行动。很快就会指出,不仅装备是一支军队的力量(参见美国在越南的经验)。国家的军事机器的情况当然验证了这种正确。但是,我们是不是也应该花更多的时间来培训那些使用这些越来越复杂的材料的男女员工? (2)

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Mayournadin 240 points
10 days ago
Your article is welcome. It raises several questions that reflect the lack of vision and strategy of the country's defense policy. Firstly, it is regrettable that on this matter silence has been absolute at the level of the authorities concerned. Discretion is certainly necessary at the level of defense issues. But the question arises whether in the context of the events known last year such a secret was founded. Implicitly is the question of the credibility that must be given to the peremptory statements of the ministerial officials and the senior military of the country, who do not stop saying that the armed forces of the country are ready to face any eventuality? The fundamental question is whether the officials in question take the threats to the country seriously. We can doubt it after reading your article. (1)
你的文章是受欢迎的。它提出了一些国防政策缺乏远见和战略的问题。首先,在这个问题上,有关当局选择沉默,这是令人遗憾的。在防务问题上,判断力当然是必要的。去年在问题出现后,是否保守了这样一个秘密。对于部长级官员和国家高级军队的强制性陈述,不得不说中国的军队已经准备好面对任何可能发生的情况,这个问题应该被掩饰吗?根本问题是有关官员是否认真对待这个国家的威胁。读完你的文章后,我们可以对此质疑。 (1)

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Sitaram Agarwal1015 points
10 days ago
I believe that more strict discipline is need and Navy will take due action if there is lack of military discipline.
我认为,更加严格的纪律是必要的,如果缺乏军纪,海军将采取适当的行动。

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Naveed 3285 points
10 days ago
India has been Crippled for last 44 Months, Airhant has been Crippled for 10 months only
印度在过去的44个月里一直处于瘫痪状态,Airhant已经被迫瘫痪了10个月

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Madanlal Sharma310 pointsNaveed
10 days ago
Don’t say that. It is not easy to do something of this nature.
不要那么说。做这种事情并不容易。

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Naveed 3285 pointsMadanlal Sharma
9 days ago
Modiji has Hamstrung India in Hindutva Bigotry
Modiji在Hindutva Bigotry有Hamstrung India
  
Naveed 3285 pointsMadanlal Sharma
9 days ago
Modiji has intellectually Crippled India.
莫迪Ji有智力残缺印度。
  

A.S. Malhotra5930 points
10 days ago
Such a big mistake by human error cannot be tolerated at any cost for entering water into the INS nuclear submarine of India. If this could be happened during war    situation, then it would put great loss to the Nation in all respects. Therefore, great need is required for meticulous quality control management system to higher degree of sigma values as all levels to rule out such man made and machine generated mistakes. Moreover, hard earned tax payers money is involved in these sensitive defence projects. Jai Hind.
由于人为错误导致的这样一个大错误不能被容忍,不惜任何代价将水引入印度的INS核潜艇。如果这种情况在战争中可能发生,那么这将给国家在各方面造成重大损失。因此,精细的质量控制管理体系对于各个层次的西格玛值要求很高,以排除这样的人为错误和机器错误。而且,这些敏感的防务项目涉及到纳税人的钱。 Jai Hind。

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Manjit Singh2305 points
10 days ago
Not a very promising news for us, but I didn't get that how come these matters of national importance are reported out in public ? We know this and now so does everyone including our enemies, sitting somewhere maybe waiting for such a golden opportunity ? Newspapers and reporters should have a basic common sense knowing what to report and what not to...
对我们来说这不是一个好消息,但是我不知道这些国家重要事项是如何公开报道的?我们知道这一点,现在每个人都包括我们的敌人,坐在某个地方也许正在等待这样一个好机会?报纸和记者应该有一个基本的常识,知道要报告什么,不该...

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Vineeth 1355 pointsManjit Singh
10 days ago
If it does not come out in public the Govt and the Navy would continue with its chalta hai attitude and the country's defense would be even more vulnerable. This is a wakeup call.
如果不公开出来,政府和海军将继续掩盖,国防将更加脆弱。这是一个令人发醒报道。

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Bharat 105 points
10 days ago
This is due to Casual approach of Govt Officials. In India, court is there, if money can pay, their case can also be resolved. Under such circumstances, why India Govt is making such highly sophisticated ship from the tax of common people. If the Govt is not able to handle its officials and staff in a manner, they should leave. If a ship cannot manage by Navy, then whatelse can we expect from Navy. It is possible that our enemy may bribe them to demonstrate such casual approach. This ship is an important ship, but nobody cared. Who can punish to whom? Punishment cost also going from the pocket of common people tax. God can save us. Faith in the Political system and govt is lost.Nobody can save this country.
这是由于政府官员的懈怠。在印度,法院在那里,如果可以付钱,他们的案子也可以解决。在这种情况下,为什么印度政府正在从普通百姓的税收上制造出如此复杂的船舶。如果政府不能处理其官员和工作人员,他们应该离开。如果一艘船不能由海军好好管理,那么我们还能期待什么。我们的敌人可能会贿赂他们来表现这种懈怠。这艘船是重要的船只,但没有人关心。该惩罚谁?惩罚成本也从普通百姓的口袋里征收。上帝可以拯救我们政治制度和政府的信念已经失去,没有人能拯救这个国家。

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Satish Duraisamy1530 pointsBharat
10 days ago
Man..can we ever stop being emotional?. Arihant is a machine - a very complex and special one built for the first time. It is expected that the customer, IN, will use it to master operationalization techniques for the other subs in the pipeline. Yes, the incident is serious. Yes, iN will find the issue. Yes, the boat will be fixed and IN learn from it. Yes it is worrisome. Yes, the Modi govt knows it's job and so does IN No need to predict doomsday...
Btw, an article of such nature does not appear unless the goI wants you to know.
我们可以理性一些吗? Arihant是一台机器,是一个非常复杂和特殊的机器。潜在客户IN将使用它来掌握其他潜在客户的操作技术。是的,事件很严重是的,iN会发现这个问题。是的,这艘船将被固定,并从中学习。是的,这是令人担忧的。是的,莫迪政府知道这是工作,所以没有必要预测世界末日...
顺便说一句,这样的性质的文章不会出现,除非你想知道。
  
RAJ RAJU30 points
10 days ago
Was it really necessary to report this to the public domain!!
真的有必要向公众报告这个!

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Raghu 9450 pointsRAJ RAJU
10 days ago
India is a democracy with a free and independent press. If the taxpayers have paid Rs 14,000 crore for this vessel, and it is sitting idle, then they need to know why their hard earned tax money is being wasted. That is the only way to bring accountability to the government.
印度是一个有独立新闻自由的民主国家。如果纳税人为这艘船支付了一亿四千万卢比,并且闲置,那么他们需要知道为什么他们辛苦赚来的税款被浪费了。这是向政府提出问责的唯一途径。

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Satish Duraisamy1530 points
10 days ago
IN has been having way too many incidents of late. Unfortunate it had to be the Arihant. Hope they get it up and away soon.
IN最近发生的事情太多了。不幸的是它必须是Arihant。希望他们尽快把它拿走。

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Raja Panwar50 points
10 days ago
Aspirational ambitions and the keeping a fleet in top running order needs leadership and the drudgery of doing ones duty well and exceptionally. Leaving a hatch open whether due to human or technical error is not a good sign. Chalta hai attitude must be dispensed with!
理想抱负和保持最高秩序的船队需要领导和异常辛苦的苦工必须通力合作。不管是因为人为还是技术上的错误,不管是开放舱口,都不是一个好兆头。Chalta hai的态度一定是无可奈何的!

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Joshua 205 points
10 days ago
india still needs to improve its basic infrastructure..
印度仍需改善其基础设施。

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Vishnu 55 points
10 days ago
The newspapers should be cautious with such matters. Better, not to publish such strategic information.
报纸应该谨慎处理这些事情。最好不要发布这样的战略信息。

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Manohar Raghunath5 points
10 days ago
Why are Indian journalists and their sources so pessimistic when it comes to anything Indian? Every complex project in the world has issues and has cost overruns etc. Why this constant drumbeat on how local projects are bad? This report could have been factual without the senior officer comments being included that only derides local efforts. If indeed they are senior naval officials, I would ask them how they would    to fight enemies when they deny key elements if it goes against their strategic interests. I am amazed such low self esteem folks exist in the Indian armed forces.
为什么印度记者和他们的消息来源如此悲观?世界上每一个复杂的项目都有问题,成本超支等等。为什么这个地方项目如此糟糕的表现呢?如果没有高级官员的评论,这个报告本可以是事实的,只是嘲笑当地的努力。如果他们确实是高级海军官员的话,我会问他们如果否定了与战略利益相违背的关键要素,他们将如何与敌人作战。我很惊讶印度军队中存在着如此低自尊的人。

  
Naveed 3285 points
10 days ago
I bet you Arihant would never be Operational again
我敢打赌你Arihant永远不会再运行了
  
Naveed 3285 points
10 days ago
The Way this Incompetent government of Gau Rakhshak is working, India is falling further behind in Defense Capability
这就是这个无能政府的工作方式,印度在防卫能力会进一步滑落。
  
Naveed 3285 points
10 days ago
China is light years ahead of India in Submarine and Fighter Aircraft Technology
中国在潜艇和战斗机技术方面比印度领先几年

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Shemeela Sasikumar4575 pointsNaveed
10 days ago
You seem so happy about this. You ought to be worried about how India will suffer due to this mishap which has also been reported on a daily public newspaper. But then, people    you seem to hope for India to fall, noting your comments so far..
你看起来真高兴。你应该担心印度如何受到这种事故的困扰,这在日常的公共报纸上也有报道。但是,迄今为止你似乎是希望印度跌倒的人,注意到你的评论..

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Ankit Bhardwaj80 pointsShemeela Sasikumar
7 days ago
If you are such a patriot, why is your DP in UK?
如果你是个爱国者,你为什么在英国的DP?
  

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Curious Onlooker13795 points
10 days ago
Looks    a clear case or intentional sabotage.
一目了然的事件或故意的破坏。

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Ajay 35 points
10 days ago
submarine was in a difficult situation.
潜艇处境艰难。

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Sunny Cal4130 points
10 days ago
Wow! The damaged happened because someone forgot to close the hatch? How negligent it this! It sounds    the navy doesn't have proper training, procedures and assigned accountability. The commanding officers including the navy chief should be fired.
哇!发生了损坏是因为有人忘了关上舱门?这疏忽!听起来海军没有恰当地进行训练和指定责任。包括海军司令在内的指挥官应该被解雇。

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Cclements 6465 points
10 days ago
........and they want to fight a war with China. Perhaps, this government is too busy fighting an ideological war on its own people.
........他们想和中国打一场战争。也许这个政府忙着为自己的人民打一场意识形态的战争。

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Robert Devasahayam250 points
10 days ago
This news comes after 10 months
这个消息是在10个月之后
  
Suvojit 11045 points
11 days ago
"Human error" - incompetence galore, typical Indian 'chalta hai' culture. People should be held accountable to set example! Indian Navy with its myriad of accidents over last few years has been going downhill, hope the DM does something to reverse the slide
“人为错误” - 无能为力,典型的印度“chalta hai”文化。人们应该追究责任,树立榜样!印度海军在过去几年中发生了无数事故,一直在走下坡路,希望总理能够扭转局面

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John Desouza4675 pointsSuvojit
6 days ago
Human error or intentional sabotage.
人为错误或故意破坏。

  
V. Ramaswami5780 points
11 days ago
Too hard not to suspect foul play!
如此愚蠢的操作,难以置信!

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